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Post by relic on Jun 10, 2010 2:45:48 GMT -5
The way things are going in the UK with crime on the up and with are new government going to cut back on the polices and CCTV and it will happen wot type of dog or dogs and wot size would you or have you got for your security and PP needs or do you think that we don't need dogs like this with in are modern socialite. I am asking this as we have had a spate of brake ins on my road, with the little shits snicking around the house with the home owners fast asleep in bed. The one victim was a single mom with two little girls in bed and it ant worth thinking about if the ones who broke in was a sex case and as i have said before i ant feeding and keeping a dog for nuff think, I worked away from home for nearly 10 years some times two days away buy car so it would of been hard to get back home but with the dog that we have his size and the training that i gave him i and my lady both could sleep well at night even tho i might of been away for 3 months at a time. So wot dog would you or have you got for this job.
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Post by hogdog on Jun 10, 2010 3:02:49 GMT -5
I don't really have anything worth stealing and I'm big enough and ugly enough for people not to bother me, even when I lived in a really rough area I never felt threatened so I don't really need dogs for protection and Sonny is caged when I'm out anyway so would be useless in a break in.
If I did have a local problems with burglary then I'd leave him out. I'm certain he would do the job if required going by his passed actions with the bloke who tried to paint my window sills. My stafford Macy would be useless in a break in as most Staffords would but if someone attacked me she would certainly get stuck in.
It's nice to have it if you really need it and it's not an instinct we should let die because we don't need it so I'm all for PP work with the right breeds. I wouldn't use a Stafford for gaurding because I think you're fighting against their instincts and most just aren't big enough but I would with a large Bull Terrier because it's part of their heritage and some of them are large enough to be really effective against a human.
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Post by hogdog on Jun 10, 2010 3:07:09 GMT -5
BTW Neil's old dog Bob was a Stafford and he showed on occasion that he could do the job and then some. My Mum looked after him for a while and he slept on the end of her bed, she said she'd never felt as safe as when he was around. He really was a bit of a monster despite only being 40lb, you really wouldn't mess with him so some of them can do it, it's just not the dog I would normally go for.
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Post by relic on Jun 10, 2010 3:55:57 GMT -5
Before when i was younger i lived and was bought up on a bit of a shit hole estate but a relationship brake up meant that i lost my house and all but one off my dogs a Neo well his mom was half ban dog and i had to move to a right shit hole in the city center crack city back in the day with all of the dealers out said the pub and betting shop by about 10 in the morning and there most of been up to 30 of them this was before CCTV and i ant a small lad and have never backed down from a fight i spouse thats why i am one ugly cxxt HE HE but i was chuffed to bits that i had that dog there for protection as it was like living in the hood HE HE stabbing shooting rapes even bummings on a daily basses and i ant joking. I lived there for about a year until i got a flat just up the road from it but for enough from it but living with a dog like that in a flat is just to much so when i met my lady and it got to the point that we was going to move in to together i had to pass my Neo on to a mate that had a small holding at the back of his pub as she did not wont a dog that big in her flat plus she did not like him he was a bit much for most to me he was spot on if i would of had the land still for him. Then i had to look for a new dog as i do not like to be with out one for to long. It had to be bigger nuff to stop a man but not to big to be in a flat, I new my dogs breeders well and the stock that they was working with just the right size about the 70lb but they had never been bred for man work but the type of dog that he is he has been the best dog that i have had for my needs not to big around the house dose not cost a lot to keep in food. So i wont my next dog to be around the same size or not much bigger. i just hope that they dont ban more bull breeds as i would like a working type AM bull next but if they do i it will be a sad day and i will have to get a Belgium Shepperd as the ones that i have been around and seen work have been spot on.
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Post by k9 on Jun 10, 2010 4:07:39 GMT -5
Anyone comes down my gravel drive day or night the dogs are off barking. I like that as it gives me time to get me pants on and wake the misses to go see what the noise is ;D Every man/woman is in titled to protect there home and family weather that be with a well trained dog in pp or what ever comes to hand.
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Post by relic on Jun 10, 2010 4:15:06 GMT -5
Anyone comes down my gravel drive day or night the dogs are off barking. I like that as it gives me time to get me pants on and wake the misses to go see what the noise is ;D Every man/woman is in titled to protect there home and family weather that be with a well trained dog in pp or what ever comes to hand. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;Dif they did come in to my home i am just going to let my boy have a right good chew on them before i call him off and if i get done for having a out of control dog then so be it, if they did get past him i have all was had a machete at the back of my head in bed, i have not worked hard all of my life so far to let some little smack head have my stuff and put the shits up my women. If i had the money and i could have one i would get a dog from Chimera Kennels as to me it is one off if not the best breeding programs out their for this type of dog not to big steady but full on.
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Post by k9 on Jun 10, 2010 4:25:48 GMT -5
Mick i am a big fan of chimera kennels always have been. o ye mate you know me i would get the camera out and share some pics with you guys and gals of the dogs ragging the smack head burgler about the living room. I have always said i would rather the kids see me behind bars for protecting my home than staring down at me in a box lowerd into the ground because the smack head stabbed dad. Ask brad from aces if Morgan is up for the job when he come for the camera lmfao.
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Post by k9 on Jun 10, 2010 4:50:05 GMT -5
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Post by Jessica on Jun 10, 2010 5:32:56 GMT -5
Chimera kennels have a great and informative site too.
They worked very closely with Loyal Guard Kennels were our Leavitt Bulldog Bruno came form - They are a handful of of people that are very good breeders and really know thier stuff.
All our dogs would protect us without a doubt.If Steve is away i have Poppy sleeping outside loose and Butch in the house - Those two have a very good judgment on a situation whereas the bulldogs tend to bark at anything and everything....as bulldogs do.
Bert our old dog protected me in situation in the house when i was 6 months pregnant. A man was at the door and was very very threatening and actually pushed me.... Bert flew over my shoulder blocked him and grabbed hold of his trouser leg ....He chased him down the road... Bert came back and got back on the sofa and went back to sleep!..... He was never aggressive if anything too welcoming to visitors but he knew i was scared and protected me - Its very nice to know that the dogs keep you safe, if he hadn't been there that day i don't know what would have happened. It turned out that the guy had the wrong house and thought i was lying - He was a very very nasty man - I will always be grateful for how he looked out for me that day.
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Post by Jessica on Jun 10, 2010 5:41:16 GMT -5
That was slightly off point... sorry!!
As far as a family guard i think size or breed is irrelevant it is about the mentality and temperament.
Ivana is massive and a very good deterrent... no one would even try and get past her if she was barking - so she is a good guard dog she does the job we want her too without ever having to actually come into contact with somone....
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Post by relic on Jun 10, 2010 5:58:45 GMT -5
i have admired the Swinfords for around 20 years from Semencics book world of fighting dogs and it was one of the 1st thinks that i looked for when i got on line. They are doing a great job carrying on from the old program. I just wish that i could have one from him as they are the dogs bollocks in my eyes.
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Post by relic on Jun 10, 2010 6:05:18 GMT -5
Mick i am a big fan of chimera kennels always have been. o ye mate you know me i would get the camera out and share some pics with you guys and gals of the dogs ragging the smack head burgler about the living room. I have always said i would rather the kids see me behind bars for protecting my home than staring down at me in a box lowerd into the ground because the smack head stabbed dad. Ask brad from aces if Morgan is up for the job when he come for the camera lmfao. You are right Glen i would fight till the death mate to defend my misses and home and if i could i would bum him just to tech him a lesson ;D ino a man that if you fucked about with him thats wot you would get he all was said that they would get over a good beating but not a bumming 8-)no fucked about with him he did to one lad in the nick . Did Brad shit his self mate ;D ;D
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Post by k9 on Jun 10, 2010 6:22:16 GMT -5
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Post by relic on Jun 10, 2010 6:28:23 GMT -5
My mate is the man for that job i think that he would do it for fuxk all ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by k9 on Jun 10, 2010 6:42:39 GMT -5
LMFAO.. ;D ;D ;D
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