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Post by Jessica on Mar 26, 2010 5:54:26 GMT -5
When you look at our dogs how much of their structure, shape and build as well as temperament drive and ability effected by their upbringing?.....
If you look at a gymnast or a swimmer their body's have developed and adjusted to suit the demands of their chosen sport. Yes some are slightly better built of the sport hence the way they excel in the certain area, but the gymnasts you see on the T.V wouldn't be like that i they didn't train their body....
Is it possible to create or sculpt an athletic dog to an extent or is it all down to genetics?....
Would love to hear you thought guys
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Post by czbrno on Mar 26, 2010 7:55:24 GMT -5
I think you can make a second class dog look and perform well......but it takes a first class dog to be great . Clever and educated owners can make the very best of what they have but you need the class there in order to produce a top animal This reminds me of my two eldest sons...one trains hard and can get fit ...howver the other is lazy yet a natural sportsman...IF he ever decides to put in the effort he could be top class Big IF though lol
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Post by ragingstormkennels on Mar 26, 2010 7:55:56 GMT -5
To be honest I think its a bit of both, but more so nature.
For example, I have Lily and Jasmine both of which have been raised in exactly the same way, but Lily would out do Jasmine ten fold athletically. Lily has a very slender/conditioned terrier look about her whereas jasmine has a more bully/thick set build and is that much calmer and slower.
I would say you could possibly enhance a dogs capabilities somewhat by training, conditioning etc, but essentially you would need good genetics and natural drive and fire to really make an athletic dog. IMO
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Post by stag on Mar 26, 2010 8:04:05 GMT -5
Breeding best to best...worker to worker is like the frame and blank canvas of the picture then it is up to the owner of the pup to paint the picture.
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Post by orangepeel on Apr 7, 2010 8:57:18 GMT -5
Indeed dear Stag, my friend, and if one were to close ones eyes whilst painting even with the best cavas in the world one could create a proper pile of shit, would one agree? if so would one state Nuture to be as important as Nature? i retire while you consider you approach young man.
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Post by stag on Apr 7, 2010 9:14:17 GMT -5
Couldn't agree more my friend..The blind man doesn't doesn't deserve to be painting on such a canvas. I see nature and nurture like jing and jang perfect harmony.You cant have one without having the other to create a great dog.
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Post by Jessica on Apr 7, 2010 9:16:56 GMT -5
Indeed dear Stag, my friend, and if one were to close ones eyes whilst painting even with the best cavas in the world one could create a proper pile of shit, would one agree? if so would one state Nuture to be as important as Nature? i retire while you consider you approach young man. what poetic writing Mr Orangepeel.... You ever thought of writing a book!??
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Post by orangepeel on Apr 8, 2010 10:20:48 GMT -5
hey, i think you should get pen to paper dear chum
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Post by kager on Apr 9, 2010 1:54:09 GMT -5
I would say its a mixture of both..you have to have the correct raw material to start with..then you can mold the dog into what you want to a certain degree..form follows function..at the end of the day a dog is predisposed to being what its going to be due to genetics, get the genetics right the rest will follow..get it wrong and your wasting your time..silk purse..cows ear Deb
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Post by relic on Apr 9, 2010 11:44:45 GMT -5
for a start you have got to have the right blood behind your dog, and then it is up to you, two wrongs don't make a right
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