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Post by stag on Mar 28, 2010 13:47:57 GMT -5
As i see it so far we are testing our dogs athletic ability,drive,and looking for the correct conformation in the show ring.Which is great stuff but what about the dogs brain....I was thinking it would be a good idea if we could come up with a way of testing a dogs intelligence and incorporating it into the shows and doggy days.....what do you people think and how would you go about testing a dogs intelligence.
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Post by orangepeel on Mar 28, 2010 14:46:10 GMT -5
How about the dogs that refuse to pull heavy weight . Apart from that i dont think its possible unless you study your dog over a long period watching them constently.
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Post by orangepeel on Mar 28, 2010 14:55:22 GMT -5
Question is as Bull breed owners how intelligent do you want your dogs, i believe if there too bright then they will question your reasoning and decide whether the task is worth doing. A not so intelligent dog questions nothing and does all its asked. Which would you prefer? I suppose it depends on what you do with your dogs, work or athletic trials.
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Post by stag on Mar 28, 2010 14:56:37 GMT -5
Im thinking along the lines of an agility course..retrieving objects back to hand,tracking etc.
I like a dog with good brain....i think it is one of the most important tools. Doesnt a good boxer need good brain to stand above the rest.
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Post by stag on Mar 28, 2010 15:03:53 GMT -5
A dog with good brain will understand what you are asking of it.Then carry out the task because he wants to please his master just the way i look at it.
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Post by orangepeel on Mar 28, 2010 15:06:59 GMT -5
yes a boxer does, does a weight lifter need a good brain, Does a sprinter ? Retrieving back to hand would be nice to see. Ive watched a beddy whippet manouver a rabbit like a collie would sheep, awesome to watch, but dont think it would even entertain weight pull as its too bright. Thing is i dont think you can have both blind drive a lots of intelligence, but i may be wrong?
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Post by stag on Mar 28, 2010 15:15:19 GMT -5
Your right im thinking in a differant way.More towards working dogs in the field rather than the athletic trials...but then i thought you could bring the 2 togeather.simulated trials of corse. Think about what a lurcher does in the field then turn that into trials.
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Post by orangepeel on Mar 28, 2010 15:17:33 GMT -5
Im thinking along the lines of an agility course..retrieving objects back to hand,tracking etc. I like a dog with good brain....i think it is one of the most important tools. Doesnt a good boxer need good brain to stand above the rest. Yes but some with less tatics(brain) will march blindly forward while others pick their punches and bide their time. Diffrent styles with differing levels of intelligence. I enjoy both styles but think its 'horses for courses' when you pick your dogs. Hope this is clear as im starting to confuse myself, lol
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Post by orangepeel on Mar 28, 2010 15:24:25 GMT -5
it would be nice to see what your suggesting and i dont wish to sound defeatest but i dont think you can touch the levels of intellegence you would see in the field. The athletic days are needed to spread the word about fitness but i dont think you could test intelligence. Also as these days are Heavily Bull breed attended, more of a battering ram mentality than your lock picking collie ;D
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Post by orangepeel on Mar 28, 2010 15:27:34 GMT -5
i havent seen a collie pick a lock but you know what i mean
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Post by stag on Mar 28, 2010 15:30:26 GMT -5
LOL...i hate it when that happens.To much thinking that is lol.
Let me run this by you....right on the end of the lure machine you place one rabbit skin with say a foot of string then like a snap on snap off system fitted.so when the dog catches the skin it pulls it free from the rest of the line then brings back to its master....so therefore we are testing the time and intelligence....i have other ideas but cant be arsed to write lol.
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Post by orangepeel on Mar 28, 2010 15:44:44 GMT -5
would really love to see it mate, but my old Stafford would never of brought anything back to me, it was my job to catch him up, get him on a lead and run off before we got caught, LOL
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Post by stag on Mar 28, 2010 15:48:34 GMT -5
OK heres another one....The handler has an object they throw it over a 3 foot wall up to what ever hieght..the dog is then released.They jump the wall retrieve the object jump back over,object to hand.
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Post by orangepeel on Mar 28, 2010 15:53:06 GMT -5
it does sound good stuff mate
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Post by czbrno on Mar 29, 2010 0:57:58 GMT -5
A while back i discussed the possiblity of this type of thing ,more obedienced based to test the dog as a whole . In theory it felt and sounded really good,i am not sure how well it would progress because training the dogs mind with bullbreeds can be alot harder than their bodies. That is not to say they cannot learn,i have done ob to a good level with a stafford,although she was'nt the driviest creature ever born. I think if it could be done it would bring nothing but good,the problem would be people not liking the harder challenge
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